2010 AFL Grand Final Re-match Highlights

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2010 AFL Grand Final Re-match Highlights

Authored by: Sam
on Friday, October 08 2010 @ 08:20 am ACDT

Brett,

You are leading us further into the areas of subjectivity which I have demonstrated are logically inconsistent.

Obviously a contemporary team will easily beat a team from history, but that is not a worthwhile or honest apples-to-apples comparison. What you seem to missing in all I have written previously is an appreciation that for each given period of time the people of that time are doing the best they can in the circumstances, they valued the premierships won in their time just as much as we value ours. Even though the standard or breadth of the competition will continue to grow on the shoulders of those involved today, the value of a premiership won today is worth just as much as a premiership in fifty years time.

The league that is called the AFL today was formally constituted in 1897. This is where official records begin, everything else like names, medals, proportions of players of given backgrounds, degrees of professionalism, Port Adelaide's history, the circumstances of national expansion, Mike Sheehan's opinions, champion players in other leagues or inclusion of new clubs are entirely irrelevant to that objective fact.

I can see that we are not going to persuade each other to the others point of view, so I will leave it here. Hopefully some others may have gained some amusement or insight from the discussion.

2010 AFL Grand Final Re-match Highlights

Authored by: Brett Northey
on Friday, October 08 2010 @ 12:51 pm ACDT

I won't comtinue the debate either, but I will just clarify that where you said because you say I'm missing the point but the point you re-state I have mostly never disagreed with:

"Obviously a contemporary team will easily beat a team from history, but that is not a worthwhile or honest apples-to-apples comparison. What you seem to missing in all I have written previously is an appreciation that for each given period of time the people of that time are doing the best they can in the circumstances, they valued the premierships won in their time just as much as we value ours. Even though the standard or breadth of the competition will continue to grow on the shoulders of those involved today, the value of a premiership won today is worth just as much as a premiership in fifty years time."

I have stated repeatedly that I don't disregard earlier premierships and that they should indeed value their premierships, my point is that they were from, in my opinion, effectively different competitions, and if I am to compare the nature of those flags e.g. around 1900 then the appropriate comparison, if any, would be with other state leagues of that era, not the very different beast that is a national comp. Just like I won't consider a suburban Auckland flag on a par with a World AFL flag if it happened that the Auckland AFL evolved into the World AFL. It's still a worthwhile flag and it's still part of the heritage of the given club, but not particularly relevant to the hypothetical World league 50 years later. That's my point, we disagree.

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Brett Northey - Co-founder and Chief Editor of WFN

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Brett Northey - Co-founder and Chief Editor of WFN

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