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Debate - World footy rankings 2008 - other countries to consider

Authored by: Cam Homes
on Thursday, February 18 2010 @ 04:30 pm ACDT

Brett
Forever only looking at the last half dozen or so games played will not bring about a ranking that can be tested. It will always be open to dispute eg. our team has been training hard getting expert coaching we didn't have before when the next game is played we're gunna be much better and move up the rankings!!! we might have 20 experts agree with that statement BUT that can only be tested after that next match. win = rise up rankings, star player breaks leg goal kickers have crap day kick 1 - 10 instead of 10 -1. 20 experts proved wrong. Take a look at the Rugby Rankings and their assumptions at IRB World Rankings - explanations - Probably more succinct than I can ever be. And I keep coming back to the paupacity of matches played internationally in Aussie Rules is our problem and that we must start some where and if we keep ruling out games because they were played more than 4- 5 -10 years ago and by using them they might not agree with how we think the standard of play is improving in this country or that country then we will never accumulate enough matches to ever be able to rank the countries with an empirical ranking scheme. Again as the AFL are totally unlikely to set one up and you do set up an unofficial official ranking scheme it just might prompt the AFL to do so, as we all know the AFL doesn't like other organisations doing AFL things without them having their finger in the pie, especially if it looks like it might be successful.
Cam

Debate - World footy rankings 2008 - other countries to consider

Authored by: Brett Northey
on Thursday, February 18 2010 @ 11:34 pm ACDT

I understand your point that some kind of mathematical system might encourage teams to compete more or the AFL to do their own system, but I think it's unlikely to make much difference in either case - countries already like to compete, it's costs and player availability that hold them back quite often. And the AFL didn't jump to implement a system in response to ours. I think they recognise that there isn't enough data.

So I can see the motivation but I just can't agree with a system if it produces a completely invalid result. I guess we agree to disagree - you reckon lack of data means include data that is old to at least get a result, I reckon it's just including bad data to give bad results.

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Brett Northey - Co-founder and Chief Editor of WFN

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Brett Northey - Co-founder and Chief Editor of WFN

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