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Oceania score Day 1 win in NSW State U16 Championships

Authored by: peterc
on Tuesday, April 19 2011 @ 05:19 pm ACST

Who are the NSW North Coast mob? are they from below the brick wall that runs fro East to West at Coffs Harbour? Because certainly no one from Summerland got a look in,or the teams from out west.

Oceania score Day 1 win in NSW State U16 Championships

Authored by: Michael Christiansen
on Tuesday, April 19 2011 @ 08:59 pm ACST

Day 2 results in,

South Sydney 16.16.(112) def Oceania 4.2.(26)

Goals for Oceania : Palaiti (Tng) 2, Sili (Sol Is.) 1, To'a (Tng) 1.

So, coming back down to earth a bit obviously. For a benchmark, Northern Coast 3.3.21 went down to GWS Academy 9.9.63.

re the Northern Coast side - players come from Central Coast up to Coffs and Port Maquarie and Kempsey.

Oceania score Day 1 win in NSW State U16 Championships

Authored by: Aaron Richard
on Tuesday, April 19 2011 @ 09:02 pm ACST

I have no idea how the selection process was undertaken, but as far as I know, "NSW North Coast" includes the Black Diamond AFL (Newcastle/Central Coast area), the North Coast AFL, Summerland AFL and Tamworth AFL.

It did stand out to me as well, that there are no players in the squad from either the Summerland or Tamworth leagues.

I don't think I saw any players from the Central West AFL in any of the squads either - not sure which region they're part of.

Oceania score Day 1 win in NSW State U16 Championships

Authored by: Michael Christiansen
on Wednesday, April 20 2011 @ 06:14 am ACST

Yeah, I did notice the lack of far north (Summerland) lads. They aren't per chance incorporated into a S-E QLD pathway?? (it'd just about be easier!!).

At any rate, the Swans squad includes kids from Westbrook and Singleton, then from Warners Bay and Cardiff and also from Nelson Bay. Okay, all Black Diamond league, but from near Tamworth across to Newcastle.

The Northern Coast does have a lot of Central Coast lads (a lot around Gosford region, Narara, Woy Woy, Wyoming, Wyong, Niagara Park etc......all familiar to me as I have a brother who has lived up there for many years). There's a lad from Singleton who lives in Tamworth.

That leaves the obvious assertion. That the aspirational kids are gravitating to clubs in the Black Diamond league - as, the kids nearish to Tamworth who've been selected for rep duties have been playing out of Singleton.

Is it unfair or just indicative?? Or is there a real issue for the kids up Ballina way and the kids in Tamworth proper?

Oceania score Day 1 win in NSW State U16 Championships

Authored by: Aaron Richard
on Wednesday, April 20 2011 @ 03:42 pm ACST

Re: Summerland kids being in the Queensland pathway - not sure, but I don't think so.

The NSW champs are including some like the kids from the Broken Hill FL, who are in NSW geographically, but who as far as I know have always been part of the SANFL and considered honorary South Australians for footballing purposes. Certainly the BHFL rep squad play their interleague matches against SA leagues rather than NSW sides.

Oceania score Day 1 win in NSW State U16 Championships

Authored by: Michael Christiansen
on Wednesday, April 20 2011 @ 04:56 pm ACST

It's funny, over the years, you hear a bit about whether QLD might divide into Nrth and Sth for two states instead of 1.

I reckon there needs to be some revision of other borders. Sth Aust should take Broken Hill and Mildura. Victoria should probably get everything south of the Murrumbidgee thus making Wagga and Canberra border cities (if, and that's only IF a river is still deemed a reasonable border rather than a valley separating ridge top.)

Anyway, whilst much of this may make great logic and send Moama and Barooga and Albury back into Victoria where so much of the pokies money came from,......it'd ruddy well stuff up the AFL NSW participation figures!!!!

Oceania score Day 1 win in NSW State U16 Championships

Authored by: Brett Northey
on Wednesday, April 20 2011 @ 05:32 pm ACST

Apparently when they started mining at Broken Hill in NSW it was Adelaide (SA) that extended their train line in 1888 to export the material, so Broken Hill became linked to SA both economically and socially. The links remain well over a century later. Broken Hill uses SA's time zone not that of NSW, the SA arm of the ABC always includes Broken Hill in its coverage, and we see young footballers like Taylor Walker growing up barracking for the Adelaide Crows (who he now plays for, picked up via the NSW Scholarship program, although rumoured to be a target for GWS Giants).

He Mick, sounds like you're keen to change Australia's state boundaries. West Aussies often talk about becoming a separate country - if they do that they would have a pretty handy International Cup side.

Note to any readers not familiar with Australian politics these last few posts about state border changes are all highly unlikely and mostly said with humour - about as likely as the USA saying to Canada "hey do you want Alaska, it's a better fit with you guys". Then again Russia sold Alaska to the US to keep it away from Britain/Canada, so maybe the US can sell it to someone else to help with their recent debt issues. We may have wandered away from discussing footy here...

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Brett Northey - Co-founder and Chief Editor of WFN

Oceania score Day 1 win in NSW State U16 Championships

Authored by: Michael Christiansen
on Wednesday, April 20 2011 @ 05:53 pm ACST

true - mostly in humour, all those rascally Sandgropers have verged on nearing militancy a couple of times, or at least sounding like it.

btw - people who denounce Aust Footy as NOT being international tend to forget that Germany at 357K km2 would fit into NSW at 809K km2 twice with room left over for a handful of geographically smaller European nations. Victoria is 'small' geographically, but at 237K km2, is 2/3rds the size of Germany. So, in many respects, the AFL is 'big enough' to be an international sport (in essence, so too the 'domestic' leagues of the USA).

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Brett Northey - Co-founder and Chief Editor of WFN

Oceania score Day 1 win in NSW State U16 Championships

Authored by: Michael Christiansen
on Wednesday, April 20 2011 @ 06:01 pm ACST

Day 3 results and a mixed bag for Oceania as they put in a respectable effort vs Riverina : Riverina 8.6.(54) defeated Oceania 4.2.(26) Goal kickers : Robert Toukoune (Vntu) 2, Ash Wear (NZ), Asiea To’a (Tng) alas, in the 2nd game, ACT/South Coast 13.6.(84) defeated Oceania 0.3.(3) reminder the day 1 and 2 games being a longer format (4 * 17 mins) than day 3 and 4 (2 * 17 mins). Tomorrow, day 4, Oceania take on Murray & GWS Giants. On form, both games will be a challenge.

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Brett Northey - Co-founder and Chief Editor of WFN

Oceania score Day 1 win in NSW State U16 Championships

Authored by: Rory Slater
on Thursday, April 21 2011 @ 08:16 am ACST

With all the talking up of expansion of the elite AFL brand to NZ and especially in the context of grass roots of my particular footy demo, the ACT, I would like to say that this notion is not only insulting but a folly that will disenfranchise many in the process if this global cringe is ever realised.

I know that this site is a fraternity of global expansionism and very much the converted preaching to the converted, however i feel compelled to keep some of the contributors hyperbole in perspective, especially when you consider the status of this carnival in a national sense.

Regards

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Brett Northey - Co-founder and Chief Editor of WFN

Oceania score Day 1 win in NSW State U16 Championships

Authored by: Aaron Richard
on Thursday, April 21 2011 @ 09:38 am ACST

Rory, that has nothing to do with this article - we are following the fortunes of the Oceania Juniors in the NSW/ACT regionals - not currently discussing AFL clubs playing out there.

There is a team of young blokes from the Pacific (not even including the PNG boys, who make up the majority of playing numbers across the region) who are talented enough to win a few games. What's your problem with that?

Are people not allowed to play footy outside Australia until Canberra/Tasmania have an AFL side?

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Brett Northey - Co-founder and Chief Editor of WFN

Oceania score Day 1 win in NSW State U16 Championships

Authored by: Michael Christiansen
on Thursday, April 21 2011 @ 09:57 am ACST

Rory - as with Aaron, I'm not too sure of the relevance re this article/comments to 'elite' expansion (or not) into NZ (anytime in whatever timeframe into the future). One might suggest that if you have a 'warning' of footballing doom and gloom based on a few kids kicking a footy around Vanuatu, Tonga or the Solomons, then please let us know!!!

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Brett Northey - Co-founder and Chief Editor of WFN

Oceania score Day 1 win in NSW State U16 Championships

Authored by: Troy Thompson
on Thursday, April 21 2011 @ 10:06 am ACST

Can you please explain what global cringe is? Cultural cringe was a term that was used after WW2 to describe the preference for things from outside Australia due to the feeling that things Australian were inferior, but global cringe I am not aware of?

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Brett Northey - Co-founder and Chief Editor of WFN

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